Skip to content

How to Get a B2B Podcast into the Apple and Spotify Charts

How to Get a B2B Podcast into the Apple and Spotify Charts
Table of contents

B2B podcasts tend to stall for the same reason: the team treats the launch as a publishing job rather than a campaign. The episodes are good, the guests are credible, and then the show is left to find its own audience in a market where Buzzsprout alone hosts more than 112,000 active podcasts. If you want to know how to get a B2B podcast into the Apple and Spotify charts, the honest starting point is that the charts are not a reward for a big audience. They are a reward for a concentrated one, arriving in the right place at the right time. That distinction is what makes a category chart placing realistic for a show with a modest but engaged audience, and it is what this explainer walks through.

We are a Leeds-based B2B PR agency and we run Embracing Marketing Mistakes, the UK's number one marketing podcast according to Apple. It has sat in the top five of the UK Apple Podcasts Marketing chart continuously for the last 14 months and has passed 550,000 downloads. We have also done this for clients: our promotion kept Huthwaite International's Mastering Sales and Negotiations in the UK Apple Business top ten for three months. Everything below is drawn from what we learned doing that, cross-checked against what Apple and Spotify say publicly about how their charts work.

What the Apple and Spotify charts actually measure

The two platforms rank shows differently, and chart advice tends to fail when it treats them as one system. Here is what each says in its own documentation.


Apple PodcastsSpotify
Main show chartTop Shows, by market, filterable by category and subcategoryTop Podcasts, top 200 per country
Ranking signalsA mix of listening, follows and completion rate; exact algorithm undisclosedTop Podcasts uses weekly unique audience; Trending Podcasts uses "a combination of growth factors"
Category chartsYes, including subcategories such as Business > MarketingTop 50 per category, decided by the first category in your RSS feed; select countries only
RefreshRegularly throughout the dayDaily
Ratings and reviewsExplicitly not in the ranking algorithmNot listed as a factor
Automatic downloadsNot countedNot stated

Three details in that table change how you should plan.

First, Apple states outright that ratings, reviews and shares "are not factored into the algorithm that determines the rankings for Top Shows and Trending Episodes". They influence whether a browsing listener presses play or follow, and those actions count, but the review drive that features in so many launch checklists is a second-order lever, not a direct one. Spend the effort on follows and completed listens instead.

Second, Apple counts follows as "an indicator of intent to listen" and completion rate as "an indicator of content quality". A thousand people who follow the show and finish the episode are worth more to your chart position than five thousand who play thirty seconds from a LinkedIn preview and leave. Completion rate is visible in your Apple Podcasts Connect analytics, and it is the number to watch alongside follows.

Third, Spotify's Top Podcasts chart is based on weekly unique audience and updates once a day. A single day of frantic promotion moves Apple's intraday chart quickly; on Spotify it is the shape of the whole week that counts. Spotify's Trending chart, which rewards growth rather than absolute size, is the one a new show is more likely to break into first.

Pick the chart you can actually win

The top-level Business chart in the UK is contested by shows with far larger audiences and promotional budgets than a niche B2B programme. A twelve-episode show with a strong specialism will not displace them at launch, and it does not need to. Apple maintains six subcategories under Business: Careers, Entrepreneurship, Investing, Management, Marketing and Non-Profit, each with its own chart, and Apple uses your primary category to decide where you appear. Spotify does the same with the first category listed in your feed.

This has two practical consequences. Your category choice is a strategic decision, not a metadata afterthought, and it should be the narrowest accurate subcategory rather than the broadest. And your target should be phrased as a country plus a subcategory: "top five in Apple's UK Marketing chart" is a plan; "get into the Business charts" is a wish. Our own show is listed in the Marketing subcategory rather than at Business level. Huthwaite's show competed in the broader UK Business chart, and holding a top-ten position there for three months took sustained promotion rather than a single launch burst, which is the point of the campaign structure below.

The benchmarks bear this out. Buzzsprout's platform data for August 2026 shows that an episode downloaded 407 times in its first seven days is in the top 10% of all podcasts on the platform, and 1,003 downloads puts it in the top 5%. The median episode gets 27. A B2B show with an engaged professional audience of a few thousand is already, statistically, a large podcast. The chart question is whether that audience arrives on Apple and Spotify in a pattern the algorithms recognise.

Why velocity beats volume

Apple describes its Trending Episodes chart as capturing "the momentum of the most recent listener engagement" and says positions "can shift quickly". Both platforms are measuring recent behaviour, not lifetime totals. Apple is explicit that the charts "do not reflect all-time listening records and are not a measure of the largest podcasts by listenership".

Apple does not publish the window it measures over, so the exact maths is unknowable from outside. But the logic follows from its own description: the same 2,000 follows spread across six weeks barely register, while 2,000 follows landing inside 48 hours look like a show that is suddenly popular, because in the algorithm's terms, it is. Every tactic in the plan below exists to compress your audience's actions into a narrow window and then hold the level for the following week so Spotify's weekly measure catches up.

That compression is also why B2B shows have a structural advantage over consumer ones. Your audience is reachable through channels you already control: a CRM, a LinkedIn following, a sales team's contact lists, event delegates, guests with their own professional networks. A consumer show has to buy that reach. You can schedule it. Air's Master Later Life Lending by Air, which we grew to 20,000 downloads, serves a narrow professional audience rather than a mass one, and that is the pattern this approach suits.

How to get a B2B podcast into the Apple and Spotify charts: the campaign plan

Treat this as a four-to-six-week campaign with a defined push window, whether you are launching a new show or relaunching one that has drifted.

Weeks 1–3: build the asset base

  • Fix the metadata. Set your primary category to the most specific subcategory that fits, confirm it appears first in the RSS feed, and check the show is available in the country whose chart you are targeting. Apple only lists shows in markets where the creator has made them available.
  • Bank three to five episodes. Multi-episode drops give a new follower somewhere to go, which lifts total listening time per follower. It also gives you more clips and more angles for a week of promotion without repeating yourself.
  • Book guests for reach as well as expertise. A guest with 30,000 engaged LinkedIn followers who agrees, in writing, to post on release day is a distribution channel. Brief them with ready-made clips, a suggested post and the direct Apple and Spotify links, not the website page.
  • Segment your owned audience. Split your email list and CRM into the people who will act on a single ask (customers, partners, past guests, staff) and the people who need warming. The first group is your launch-day audience; the second gets the episode a few days later to sustain the week.
  • Build the landing infrastructure. Separate short links for Apple and Spotify, each with UTM tagging, so you can see which channel drove which platform. Do not send launch traffic to a generic "listen everywhere" page; every extra click loses people.

The 72-hour push window

  • Day one, morning UK time: episodes go live, staff post simultaneously, the first email segment lands, and guests post. Every message asks for one specific action: follow the show on Apple or Spotify, then play the first episode. "Follow" is the word to use; it is the action Apple counts.
  • Day one, afternoon: the host goes live or posts a native video on LinkedIn discussing the episode, not the podcast. Lead the video with the guest's argument and mention the show only in the final line and the link.
  • Day two: paid amplification begins. LinkedIn targeting by job title and company size is rarely cheap, but for a B2B show it is the paid channel where the audience most closely matches the chart you are chasing. Our guide to LinkedIn advertising covers the targeting options in depth.
  • Day three: second email segment, guest follow-ups, and a "we're at number X" post if you have entered a chart. Apple provides marketing tools for exactly this, and a chart badge is social proof that converts browsers who would otherwise scroll past.

Days 4–14: hold the level for Spotify

Apple may place you within hours. Spotify's Top Podcasts chart is a weekly unique audience measure updated daily, so a burst that ends on day three will fade from Spotify before it registers. Keep a drip of guest reposts, cut-down clips, a second host video and any earned coverage running through the second week. Then check both platforms' analytics for the numbers that matter: new followers, engaged listeners and completion rate. If completion is low, the chart problem is a content problem, and no amount of promotion fixes that.

After the launch: staying there

A launch push earns a position; a weekly rhythm keeps it. The 14 months our own show has spent in the top five of the UK Marketing chart coincides with a new episode every week rather than a single launch campaign, which is what gives the platforms steady rather than spiky engagement to measure. Huthwaite's three months in the Business top ten came from promotion that continued well past launch. If your team can only sustain one of the two, prioritise the consistency over the launch fireworks.

What will get you removed, and what simply wastes money

Apple monitors its charts "to ensure they reflect genuine user engagement" and states that rankings "cannot be purchased or sold". Its content guidelines prohibit artificially increasing follows, listens, ratings or reviews. In practice that rules out bought followers, click farms, incentivised follows and any service promising a guaranteed chart position for a fee. Beyond the policy risk, it does not work: Apple excludes automatic downloads from ranking, and low-completion plays from purchased traffic drag down the quality signal you are trying to raise. Nobody outside Apple or Spotify controls the algorithm, so nobody can honestly guarantee a specific position, and we do not: we set a chart target and commit to the promotion plan behind it.

Less dramatically, there are three common ways to burn budget without moving the chart:

  1. Driving traffic to your website player. Plays on your own website player show up in your hosting stats, not in the Apple or Spotify listening that those platforms rank on. Send people into the apps.
  2. Running a review campaign instead of a follow campaign. Reviews are useful for conversion, but as covered above, Apple does not count them in the ranking.
  3. Promoting across every platform at once. YouTube, Amazon Music and the web all matter for total audience. For chart entry they dilute the two signals you need. Run the push into Apple and Spotify, then widen distribution afterwards.

What the chart is worth, and what it is not

A chart placing is a means, not an outcome. It gives you a credential to put in front of prospective guests, a screenshot for the sales deck and a period of algorithmic discovery you could not otherwise buy. It does not, by itself, produce pipeline. Our B2B podcasting strategy guide makes the case that a show only generates enquiries when it sits inside a system of email, social and written content, and the chart push should be designed to feed that system rather than to end at the leaderboard.

We measure podcast work the way we measure everything else, using the AMEC framework in-house to separate outputs (downloads, chart positions) from outcomes (inbound enquiries mentioning the show, guest relationships that became client relationships, sales calls where a prospect had already heard the host). Chart position is an output. It is the outcomes that justify the budget to your board, and a good podcast partner will report on both without being asked.

Choosing an agency to do this with you

If you are weighing up outside help, the questions that separate a genuine podcast partner from a production house with a marketing add-on are fairly direct:

  • Have they charted a show themselves, and can you check it? Chart positions are public. Ask for the show name, the country, the category and the dates, then look. An agency that grows podcasts should have one of its own that demonstrates the method, and client shows it has launched. We have both: our own show's 14 months in the UK Marketing top five, Huthwaite International's Mastering Negotiations (now Mastering Sales and Negotiations) in the UK Business top ten for three months, and Air's Master Later Life Lending by Air at 20,000 downloads. We are also a member of the Worldcom Public Relations Group, which matters if your show needs to chart in more than one country.
  • Do they separate production from amplification? Many teams already have a show they are happy with; they need distribution, not a rebuild. Our podcasting service is split into "On Air" for building a show and "On Charts" for amplifying one you already have, starting with an audit and a monthly chart-rank tracker, because the two jobs need different people.
  • Can they reach a B2B audience without buying it? Chart entry depends on the owned and earned channels described above: LinkedIn, email, guest networks, trade media. An integrated team that already runs B2B social and thought leadership PR can point those channels at the launch window; a pure audio studio cannot.
  • Do they promise a chart position? If so, walk away. A credible partner will set a chart target, explain the promotion plan behind it and show you the tracker, but will not guarantee an outcome that Apple itself says cannot be bought.
  • What do they report? If the monthly report is downloads and a chart screenshot, the show will be judged on vanity metrics and cut at the next budget review. Ask how they connect the podcast to leads and pipeline.

For an honest picture of the whole job, from format design through to pipeline measurement, our guide to what a B2B podcast production agency should do for you sets out what to expect at each stage.

Frequently asked questions

How many listeners does a B2B podcast need to chart on Apple or Spotify?

Neither platform publishes thresholds, and the number varies by country and category. What the documentation does confirm is that Apple weighs listening, follows and completion rate and refreshes throughout the day, while Spotify's Top Podcasts chart counts weekly unique audience. A subcategory chart in a single country is the realistic first target, and the volume it takes has to be established by testing against your own analytics; the top-level Business chart requires far more.

Do Apple Podcasts reviews help you rank in the charts?

Not directly. Apple states that ratings, reviews and shares are not factored into the Top Shows and Trending Episodes algorithm. They improve conversion when someone finds your show, and those resulting follows and plays do count, so reviews are worth asking for, but they should not be the centre of a chart campaign.

Should I release all my episodes on launch day?

Banking several episodes gives each new follower more to listen to, which increases total listening, and gives you more material to promote during the push window. Apple does not say whether multi-episode launches move the charts directly, so treat it as a sensible hedge rather than a rule. For a relaunch of an existing show, a single strong episode with a concentrated promotion plan can carry the push.

How long does a chart position last?

Apple's charts refresh throughout the day and Spotify's update daily, and both reflect recent listening rather than lifetime totals, so a position earned by a launch push will slip once the push ends unless listening is sustained. Our own show has published weekly throughout its 14 months in the UK Marketing top five. Treat the initial placing as a moment to capture and reuse in your marketing, and plan the rhythm that holds it.

Can you pay to get into the podcast charts?

No. Apple states that rankings cannot be purchased or sold, excludes automatic downloads from ranking and prohibits artificially inflating follows or listens. You can pay for legitimate advertising that drives genuine listeners into the apps, which is different from buying a position, and that is the only paid route that works. Any agency that guarantees a specific chart position, rather than committing to a target and a promotion plan, is either misleading you or breaking Apple's guidelines.

Understanding how to get a B2B podcast into the Apple and Spotify charts comes down to three decisions: choosing a subcategory and country chart you can realistically win, compressing your owned and earned reach into a short window that both algorithms read as momentum, and measuring the result against business outcomes rather than the leaderboard alone. If you would like to talk through where your show sits today and what a chart campaign would take, our podcasting team would be glad to audit it with you.

Ready to get started?

Talk to our team and see how we can help.